Timeline for How can tilting a N64 cartridge cause such subtle glitches?
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| S Jan 23, 2022 at 13:36 | history | suggested | Astrid_Redfern | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
The forum containing the "wiring guide" was taken offline for Proboards ToS violation. Replaced with Wayback Machine archive URL, but I couldn't find an archived version with the images intact.
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| S Jun 20, 2018 at 6:39 | history | suggested | Malady | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 4, 2016 at 16:52 | comment | added | Jack M | @Agent_L Look, there's nothing to argue about - we're debating where something sits on a subjective scale or surprising to not surprising. Yes, of course, how surprising something is depends on who you are and what you know. That's not really in conflict with anything I said. | |
| Nov 4, 2016 at 10:19 | comment | added | Agent_L | @JackM And you have twisted my words: I haven't said "stop", I said "skid for a while and then stop", just as the game keeps "skidding" on corrupt data. You've corrupted the input to get a result you want. Removing some of the words I said ironically is quite similar to partially removing the cartridge. And similarly, it caused abnormal operation of the logic process to get you into conclusion that's wrong. Removing same word will lead into same wrong conclusion, again repeatably and reliably : ) | |
| Nov 4, 2016 at 10:11 | comment | added | Agent_L | @JackM Neither the Mario glitch you've described did anything unusual or defying reason. It was reading music and graphic from a data source and you've corrupted that data flow, so the music and graphic kept playing using the corrupt data. Just like a car which keeps riding on it's brake discs while they plow through the tarmac. Every system has some inertia, even a chicken without a head will keep going for a while. The whole no longer makes any sense, but the remaining parts of the system are still trying to do their job. Look up "Mike the headless chicken" - now that was a proper glitch! | |
| Nov 4, 2016 at 8:44 | comment | added | Luaan | @JackM It doesn't just stop. It produces lots of visual glitches (sparks), complex audio patterns (screeching and crumbling), damage to the road and the vehicle, and if it falls over a cliff, it will also make a nice little dance. And I'm not even talking about what happens to the driver :) Just because the situation doesn't seem complex to you doesn't make it simple. Human brains are just wired that way - they still have this nagging feeling that explaining thunderstorms by a human-level-intelligence-agent-in-the-skies is simpler than this whole complicated electromagnetism thing. | |
| Nov 3, 2016 at 21:01 | comment | added | Abion47 | @JackM Removing the wheels of a moving car is a good analogy. The only difference is that you understand the system of physics at play that causes the car to stop after removing the wheels. I'm sure someone who understands the system of an N64 cartridge would say "well of course the data gets corrupted in a particular way". | |
| Nov 3, 2016 at 20:13 | comment | added | Jack M | @Agent_L Exactly - the car stops, it doesn't suddenly start translating the talk radio into Chinese. Where the threshold is is subjective, but there's clearly a point beyond which the ratio of "complexity of outcome" to "simplicity of input" becomes surprising. | |
| Nov 2, 2016 at 12:58 | comment | added | Agent_L | @JackM It's not surprising. You are basically removing a component from a working system. If you would do this to some other system, it would also fail in somewhat reliable way: eg removing wheels from a car in motion always causes it to skid for a while and then stop. Now, there are some conditions you're taking for granted: if you'll do it on exactly same spot on the road, at same speed, etc (same state of the game), you'll get very similar results. But if you'd do this just before a tight mountain turn, the car would fall over a cliff - again with decent repeatability. | |
| Nov 1, 2016 at 17:20 | history | edited | JAL | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 1, 2016 at 16:29 | comment | added | Jack M | Alright, maybe not reliably, but the fact that it's happened more than once is already surprising enough for me. | |
| Nov 1, 2016 at 16:15 | history | edited | JAL | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Nov 1, 2016 at 16:07 | history | answered | JAL | CC BY-SA 3.0 |