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Is it really the case that there was a port of Microsoft Word and Excel that was one of the first really successful software to feature on a Apple device? Did Microsoft software actually have a surprisingly positive effect on early Apple products or was it's influence relatively minor?

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    They aren't competitors. Microsoft was/is a software business and Apple was/is a hardware business, based on an objective acknowledgment of which market each business actually earns the majority of their profits. – Brian H Feb 24 at 14:56
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    The original Mac was promoted by Microsoft, with Bill Gates making a personal appearance. See e.g. pinterest.com/pin/176555247865087618 and pinterest.com/pin/462815299191936703 . – fadden Feb 24 at 15:36
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    There's never really been a time when Microsoft hasn't been making software for Apple products. – Ross Ridge Feb 25 at 0:13
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Microsoft Excel was originally written for the Mac, and released in September 1985 (see Wikipedia article here). It was released for Windows 2 in 1987 (and was in fact bundled with a version of Windows).

Also, according to Wikipedia, Microsoft Word was released for the Mac "in 1985". It had previously existed as a DOS program, being released for the first time on Windows in 1989 (also on Windows 2).

I remember that Microsoft Word and Excel were really very good on the Mac in their early versions, but I don't think they had much of an impact on sales of the Mac platform overall. The initial "killer app" for the Mac platform was "desktop publishing" software. Aldus PageMaker was released on the Mac in 1985 (and on Windows in 1987), and QuarkXPress was released on the Mac in 1987 (and on Windows 3.1 in 1992).

My own recollection of the period was that the Mac was seen as essential in the 1980s if you needed to do desktop publishing - and that Windows didn't stand a chance at competing until v3.1 was released in 1991, because that version was the first that supported scalable TrueType fonts. This is because prior to that, Windows relied on raster-based fonts, that didn't scale - meaning that unless you had a copy of the typeface you wanted to use at the exact size you wanted to use it at, everything looked awful. The Mac had always been able to support the printing of PostScript fonts, and so had a head-start with making text look pretty when printed.

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  • OK so technically word as we know it today, is a port of an apple program? – Neil Meyer Feb 24 at 11:10
  • No, Word was a Microsoft package. It was ported to the Mac by Microsoft from DOS, and later ported to Windows. But Excel is a port of a Microsoft package for the Mac. None of them were Apple programs – Scott Earle Feb 24 at 11:13
  • I say ‘ported’. That implies a certain amount of code-sharing. I mean that a Mac version of Word was written after they had previously written a DOS and a Xenix version. Similarly, Excel was released on the Mac first, and well-received. It was later released on Windows. – Scott Earle Feb 24 at 11:17
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    @ScottEarle it's probable that Word for Windows was based more on the Apple code base than the DOS code base. – JeremyP Feb 24 at 15:39
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    Microsoft were very large from the late 1980s. They already had the cash cow of MS-DOS, and they teamed up with IBM to create OS/2 in around 1988. Windows 3 and then 3.1 were huge, followed by Windows NT. But in the early-to-mid 1980s they were large, but only modestly so – Scott Earle Feb 28 at 12:46
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TL;DR:

It seams as if the Question implies that there was some kind of fiendship between Microsoft and Apple. Such never existed. Microsoft was a major supplier of applications for all ranges of Apple computers and during all time.


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Is it really the case that there was a port of Microsoft Word and Excel that was one of the first really successful software to feature on a Apple device?

No. At least not for Apple devices in general. Then again, for the Macintosh, Microsoft was a major supplier. In fact, Excel was developed for the Mac, only to appeared for the PC later.

Did Microsoft software actually have a surprisingly positive effect on early Apple products or was it's influence relatively minor?

Well, it started already early on. The Apple II's floating point BASIC called Applesoft, was a Microsoft Basic 2.0. So it came with each and every Apple starting with the II+.

Similar did Microsoft sell the Softcard with CP/M as base for their Z80 products. This shows quite well that there was no imagined shunning of each other, but cooperation. After all, CP/M wasn't a Microsoft product, but made by Digital Research. So Microsoft payed them royalties (as well as building hardware) to sell their products to Apple customers.

MS even supplied an alternate OS (Xenix) and applications like Multiplan for the Lisa.

For the later Apple Microsoft was a launching partner, with Multiplan announced by Apple and Microsoft BASIC as some of the first products, already before the release of the Mac. Except, MS used the chance to do a complete redesign of Multiplan, as the code base was just out of hand (more than 100 parallel versions at the time), and replaced Multiplan soon. The new product was called Excel and targeted to beat Lotus 1-2-3.

In fact, Excel as well as Word development was for long streaks driven by the Mac version, not Windows.

It is known that Bill Gates was a great fan of the Lisa as well as the Mac. In fact, his original strategy was to get Apple to release a PC version of their OS, or at least licence it to Microsoft. Quite understandable, as having the same OS running cross platform (*1) simplifies application (and language) development a lot. Porting would be a matter of recompilation. MS was an Application and Language company, not an OS house.

MS had always a great interest in keeping Apple alive as Software for the Mac was a major source of income for MS. At some point they even owned Apple stock as part of a settlement - a cash injection crucial to Apples survival during the late 1990s.

Today Microsoft offers all their major products, from Office all the way to Visual studio - even the edge browser - in Mac versions. Most of them not just simple ports, but quite well integrated with the Mac UI language.

Wiki offers an overview of Macintosh software published by Microsoft.


*1 - Also a reason why MS tried to push Xenix as hard at the time.

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  • Probably not a fiendship but the popular narrative is that they at the very least had a rivalry. – Neil Meyer Feb 24 at 11:11
  • @NeilMeyer If at all, it's false assumption, or urban legend. They are professional companies and having a dispute about patents and copyright is a normal part these days. Heck, at some point Microsoft owned even a good share in Apple - an investment they made as part of an agreement which helped Apple out of quite some troubled time. MS had always a great interest in keeping Apple alive as it was one major source of income for MS – Raffzahn Feb 24 at 14:22
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I'm not sure you can get much earlier than Microsoft supplying Applesoft BASIC for the Apple II series in 1977.

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It wasn't a port - the first versions of Excel came out on Mac, it didn't appear on Windows until version 2. The first version of Word came out on Xenix but it did appear on Mac very early on. I think it was more important in establishing Microsoft than selling Macs, as Lotus 123 and Mutliplan were the dominant spreadsheets back then.

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  • When exactly did you stop having acces to Word and Excel on Apple devices? – Neil Meyer Feb 24 at 11:19
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    For what it's worth, MultiPlan was a Microsoft product... – Jeff Zeitlin Feb 24 at 12:38
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    @Neil Meyer I'm not sure that was ever the case? If you look at the Platforms section here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office#Platforms – Alan B Feb 24 at 13:24
  • OK so you can get a derivative of ms office on Apple devices to this day. – Neil Meyer Feb 24 at 13:28
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    You might joke that Mac users stopped wanting access to Word for the five-year life of version 6.0, the attempt at a completely unified Windows and Macintosh codebase and UI, but thankfully Microsoft were smart enough to recover from that. – Tommy Feb 24 at 19:18

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