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Variances in Basic highest line numbers

I used to wonder why different versions of Basic on 8bit machines would impose different limits on the highest line number permitted. I should point out this excludes any trickery to manually change ...
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Looking for a BASIC decruncher: inserting spaces between keywords

Many dialects of 8-bit BASIC allow ‘crunched’ source; that is, most spaces can be ignored between keywords: 10 FORX=1TO10 20 PRINTX,X^2 30 NEXTX After Microsoft BASIC-80 Rev. 5.x, however, spaces ...
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Was Locomotive BASIC significantly better than Sinclair BASIC?

The Amstrad CPC range of Z80 machines shipped with a ROM BASIC, designed and implemented by Locomotive Software. The most well known competitor was the Sinclair ZX Spectrum, also a Z80 machine, with ...
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What was stored in memory that was “unavailable to BASIC”?

On home / personal computers (such as before 1984), a machine might be described as having 24k RAM, but only 18k of that available to BASIC. If the machine had BASIC and the OS (or BIOS) stored in ROM,...
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What type of interpreter were most 8-bit BASIC implementations?

I’m a big fan of early/mid 1980s personal computers like the Amstrad CPC, Commodore 64 and the Sinclair Spectrum. One thing these computers all had was a version of BASIC. Well known ones being MS-...
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How to decode an audio file which contains an MSX BASIC program? [closed]

I have an audio file in WAV format, which supposedly comes from a cassette sound file. Moreover, it contains a BASIC program, but I don't know how to decode it. I have tried to convert the wav file to ...
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Sources for some old BASIC games

Poking about in early issues of Dr Dobbs' Journal (the journal of the People's Computer Company, or PCC) I came across a listing for BASIC games available on tape. Many of these are widespread, but a ...
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Why is ZX80 much faster than Spectrum on Rugg/Feldman benchmarks?

If you look at the results of the Rugg/Feldman benchmarks, shown in this Wiki entry, you'll see that Sinclair ZX80 is much faster than Sinclair Spectrum on all tests despite the fact that both ...
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Any historical references to links between JOSS and BASIC?

I only recently learned of the JOSS language, and then only through a roundabout fashion from an interview with David Ahl where he mentions FOCAL. This led me to read the available manuals for all ...
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How slow was the 6502 BASIC compared to Assembly

Imagine a modern computer, where let's say Python is a high level programming language and needs to be interpreted in order to execute a piece of code. You could write some code in C, compile it, ...
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What ways are there to “PEEK” of memory sections in (different) BASIC(s)?

Question Was there any BASIC or extension or toolbox for BASIC allowing to PEEK multiple bytes from memory in one instruction - besides the often-used DPEEK (or alike) to read a word? I'm asking ...
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Saving screen pixels to string in ZX Basic

I remember programming a ZX spectrum in 128 basic (about 20 years ago). I remember I was able to save a third of the screen into a variable. Something like this: 10 LET A$ = [16384 BYTES starting at ...
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Anyone heard of 'something like' EDITLN or EDITLINE or LINEDIT statement in BASIC?

Anyone heard of 'something like' EDITLN or EDITLINE or LINEDIT statement in BASIC for editing lines of a program's own code while executing ? I seem to remember a statement that was spelled '...
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String libraries for BASIC

Looking over old BASICs I find two general approaches to handling string variables. HP/Wang/Atari/et al used C-like array-of-char whose memory size is specified with a DIM statement, with the upside ...
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Read HP Basic (RMB) tokenized file into clear text?

I have a cople of HP BASIC (HP9000) files that have been saved in a non-ASCII format (HFSLIF?). Does anyone know of a conversion utility to get the code readable? The files are already on a win7 ...
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Library of MS BASIC programs in text format?

I am wondering if anyone has a pointer to a good source of "classic" BASIC programs, in text format. One would think this would be easy to find, but unfortunately VB so pollutes the results as to ...
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What is this tool that was once used to teach beginner level BASIC?

In the early 1980's there was a small handheld device that looked like a calculator. It was a tool to teach beginner level programming in BASIC. Its ad slogan was "keep it near you". I never had one ...
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Was self-modifying code possible using BASIC?

Was self-modifying-code possible using BASIC? Parameters: On commonly affordable home-computers before 1984 Code that changes its own instructions while it is executing Using BASIC only Not using ...
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Where can I read the article from Personal Computer World, Nov 1978, which introduced the 8th Rugg/Feldman test program?

I'm trying to track down a copy of PCW from November 1978. I am looking for an article on benchmarking BASIC. They introduced an 8th program to the 7-program Rugg/Feldman test and I'd like to read the ...
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Strange math syntax in old basic listing

I'm browsing through an old book "Basic Computer Simulation" from 1983. It contains a line of BASIC code that reads: LET Z1 = M * D1 * (PQ / A) [ 3 I understand all of the code except the "[ 3" I ...
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Purpose of using REM when running TR-DOS commands in BASIC

When running TR-DOS commands from within BASIC, it's necessary to prefix the command with RANDOMIZE USR 15619: REM: first. I understand the former command, but not the latter. For example, to load a ...
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BASIC09 questions

I only learned of BASIC09 today, and I'm trying to wrap my head around it. The manual talks about it being a compiler, but I'm not sure I see significant differences between its I-code and tokenized ...
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Was Vilnius BASIC cross-platform?

It is well established that Vilnius BASIC runs on PDP-11 compatible machines. For example, the BK-0010 and UKNC had Vilnius BASIC in ROM. Apparently, it was closely modelled after MSX BASIC, which ...
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Origins of the “array like” strings in BASIC

A number of early microcomputer BASICs had 'array like strings' that were unlike MS's system and instead behaved like arrays of char. Substrings were accessed using a syntax like: A$ = B$(1,5) as ...
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How to get a plain text file version of a CP/M .BAS (M-BASIC) program?

I have an old game (STRTRK.BAS) from my dad's Kaypro 10 that I would like to convert to a plain text file. Basically, what I'm trying to do is get it onto a modern computer in plain text format so I ...
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How can I input a string in ZX Spectrum BASIC using INPUT and not show the quotation marks?

How can I input a string in ZX Spectrum BASIC and not show the quotation marks on input? I've written a program for my 3-year old daughter to type in some letters, but she keeps deleting the ...
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How to use the MOD operator in TRS-80 model 100 BASIC?

I'm finding the MOD operand is not working when I enter it in the BASIC prompt. This is how I write it out. PRINT 1 * MOD(23) ?SN Error I have looked into a reference guide and it is too broad on ...
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Decoding the Workings of the TRS-80 BASIC Game “Escape!”

I've decided to port Chase! to Swift, apparently because I am insane. In any event, I'm trying to collect the various switches in versions from the era. One of these is unique, found here under the ...
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How can I implement the modulus operator in Commodore 64 Basic?

How can I implement the modulus operator in Commodore 64 Basic? There are not a lot of math functions to work with, and modulus would be very handy.
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Commodore Plus/4 60671 bytes free - how?

It is widely known that, while the Commodore 64 did indeed provide 64K of RAM for machine code programs, only 38K was usable from BASIC; this was because bank switching was needed to get at the rest, ...
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Commodore BASIC and binary floating point precision

I am mildly curious that though the 6502 provides BCD arithmetic which would be useful for implementing decimal floating point, Commodore BASIC uses, like all (?) Micro-Soft BASIC, binary floating ...
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Are there any old and nowadays active Operating Systems which has only BASIC Programming Language?

Some old Operating Systems I hear have only BASIC Programming Language. Are there any active and old operating systems which includes only BASIC Programming Language?
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Why did Extended BASIC on the TI-99/4A only allow 28 of the 32 sprites?

The Video Display Processor (VDP) of the TI-99/4A was capable of displaying 32 hardware sprites. These sprites were unusable with the default, built-in BASIC that TI provided. However, an enhanced ...
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Opening or converting GFA Basic files to something readable?

There is a bunch of GFA BASIC for Amiga files (the source code for Blender's ancestor, Traces, downloadable here: http://zgodzinski.com/blender-prehistory/) that I would like to peek at. Despite my ...
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Why was BASIC on the Commodore 64 one byte shy of 38KiB?

When you power up a Commodore 64 you are greeted with a friendly message telling the user it has 38911 BASIC bytes free. 38,911 is one byte shy of a 38 KiB (1,024 * 38 = 38,912). What was the reason ...
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How can I view BASIC code hidden by SYS?

I ran a validation of an old disk, and it turns out this ruined a game (won't load) and deleted my old high score list on David's Midnight Magic. I would like to edit the code to get the high score ...
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Early BASIC memory management

Can anyone verify or correct my memory here? Long ago, I had access to a Commodore PET which I think had 8kB of memory. Also slightly less long ago, I had a Commodore 64 with its "elephatine" 64kB. ...
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What are the rules for Applesoft BASIC formatting for code?

What are the rules for Applesoft BASIC formatting for code? I've been doing some BASIC coding and noticed that: 10 input "some question?"; name$ Will be reformatted as: 10 INPUT "some question?";...
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Origin/source of “One Line” one-key game

Circa 1985 in our school BBC Micro lab, we wasted much time playing a tiny type-in game that looked a bit like this: The playfield was filled with a random arrangement of asterisks, and the player ...
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DTSS software list?

I'm continuing my effort to track down the original author of the early game Chase. I have pretty much concluded it was written on the GE-635 running Dartmouth Time Sharing System (DTSS) and Dartmouth ...
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What caused the demise of BASIC/BASICA in the late 1980's?

While not strictly adhered to, this is somewhat of a generalization of computer listings found in the more popular magazines of the time - BYTE, Kilobaud, PC Computing, etc. This explains the ...
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New 6502 BASICs?

I sort of "have a thing for BASIC" right now, which has led to a couple of great exchanges here in RSE about the variations "back in the day". I'm wondering if anyone is aware of other modern BASICs ...
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Differences between 4k, 8k and Extended Altair BASIC?

Various histories state that there were at least three versions of Altair BASIC, 4k, 8k and Extended - plus modifications like Disk. I've found some listings of the 4k, but does anyone have a short ...
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BBC/Acorn BASIC, what made it so fast?

As I look over old versions of BASIC trying to piece together their history, I come across repeated indications that BBC Basic was really fast. One list puts it running the Ahl benchmark (for all its ...
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Did Microsoft BASIC ever use Z80 only instructions?

Did Microsoft BASIC (or any of the OEM versions) ever use Z80 only instructions? For the purposes of this question I'm ignoring the equivalent of BIOS I/O layers which OEMs would have provided.
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What books did schools use to teach BASIC?

What books would have been used to teach school aged kids BASIC in a classroom setting back when BASIC was in common use? 8-Bit computers commonly came with tutorials to learn BASIC, like A Touch of ...
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Why does this BASIC program declare variables for the numbers 0 to 4?

On pages 150 to 154 of William Tang's (1982) Spectrum Machine Language for the Absolute Beginner, there are these lines of code. (Note GOTO 9000 is the first non-REM statement in the program). 9000 ...
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ZX BASIC REM statement overhead

Since my other question has been answered and has given me a way to do high-precision timing, I've been experimenting with it a bit. The first thing I did was write a simple benchmark using the FRAMES ...
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Uptime in ZX BASIC

How can I obtain the uptime of a Sinclair ZX Spectrum machine (ZX48, ZX128, or Pentagon clone) via their BASIC interpreter? Specifically, the same value used by RANDOMIZE 0 to seed its PRNG. I would ...
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Understanding INKEY$ in ZX BASIC

The ZX BASIC Manual gives the following little program to demonstrate how INKEY$ works: 10 IF INKEY$ <> "" THEN GO TO 10 20 IF INKEY$ = "" THEN GO TO 20 30 PRINT INKEY$; 40 GO TO 10 While I ...