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Interrupt latency on the PDP-11/23

I'm trying to understand the interrupt latency on the PDP-11/23 (more specifically the KDF11-A). Diagnostic JKDBD0 test 375 (Test that a TTY interrupt causes an overflow trap) contains the following ...
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PDP-11 Program to Execute Only in the Registers

The contents of processor registers of a PDP-11/05, etc were available at UNIBUS memory addresses and it was possible to execute a small test program just in the processor registers without accessing ...
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What encoding is this BK-0010-01 FOCAL file in?

I want to keep copies of the programs I write in BK FOCAL on my modern laptop, and in the end to be able to transfer text file programs to the BK. My current system for transferring files between the ...
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What is the difference (if any) between these two expressions in FOCAL?

I am trying to understand the 1969 FOCAL program Hamurabi in detail. The program was originally written for the PDP-8 version of FOCAL, but I am running it on the BK 0010-01 which presumably is a ...
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Was the design of the PDP-11 Floating Point Processor responsible for C's willingness to do arithmetic on floats at double precision?

The Wikipedia page on PDP-11 architecture has a very interesting bullet point in the section on the Floating Point Processor extension to the basic architecture: full floating point operations on ...
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How to install RSX-11S?

I'm trying to install an RSX-11S system on my LSI-11 (PDP-11/03) simulator. I was under the impression that an RSX-11S system could be generated (via 11SGEN.CMD) from an RSX-11M or RSX-11M PLUS system....
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PDP-11 CIS MOVTC instruction... does what?

I'm looking over the PDP-11 CIS instruction set. Here is the listed description of the MOVTC (and MOVTCI) instruction: MOVTC(I): Move translated character A longer description can be found in the ...
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DEC RLV12 Disk Controller Register Access

The RLV12 Technical Description (EK-RLV12-TD-001) describes the RLV12 registers as "word-addressable". I presume that means these registers can only be accessed as words and byte access ...
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PDP-11/34 bit 8 in MMR0: maintenance mode - what does it do?

While attempting to write a PDP-11/34 emulator, I noticed that there's a bit called "maintenance" in the MMR0 (SSR0) register (the 8th). What does it do? In the manual I read: Maintenance/...
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PDP-11 ASH instruction: who is right?

I'm trying to figure out why emulation of the ASH instruction by my emulator is marked as faulty. I use the XXDP+ "EKBBF0" test to verify its cpu emulation. If I look at the source-code of ...
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What motivated the weird boolean instruction repertoire of the PDP-11?

The PDP-11 has seven dyadic instructions (I'm not counting the byte/word varieties separately), which take a full six bits for each of its operands. That's twelve bits to specify the operands, and ...
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simh skipping parts of the v5 unix boot process?

I tried to run v5root.gz on simh V3.8 (unix research version 5). This works insofar as I get a login prompt. If I though look at the source code of main.c (line 55) of the kernel in that image, then ...
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Can PDP-11 general registers be referenced by memory addresses?

From time to time it is mentioned in RC that the PDP-11 general registers R0-R7 are accessible at addresses 177700 to 177717 (considered as 16 bit program addresses). The mapping is as follows, again ...
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PDP 11/70: how does MTPI work?

I'm trying to understand the MTPI (and its MFPI counterpart) instruction on the PDP/11. As far as I understood, it: it retrieves a value from the "current" memory space with the current ...
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PDP 11/70: byte addressing of I/O space

The highest memory page in the PDP-11 series is the I/O-page. On some addresses devices can be accessed. Usually via words and they are also on even addresses. The cpu-registers are also 'visible' in ...
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getting PDP-11 DL11 output via telnet

I'm trying to run the (a slightly adapted version but the original gives the same problem) example program from How to implement a 'write' function in pdp-11 / MACRO-11 / ODT using simh? in ...
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'Trap stack push abort' on the PDP-11 with SIMH

I'm trying to run a bare-metal example program from the DL11 manual that echoes user input. When I try to run it via SIMH however I get a 'Trap stack push abort' error when it tries to access address ...
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"MOS" - Mini Operating System for PDP-11?

Around 1977 or so, I worked with MOS, a "mini" operating system for the PDP-11. I think it was originally developed at SRI, to support the BBN Packet Radio networking research. It was ...
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When did an overlay linker first appear in a PDP-11 UNIX OS?

On a 16-bit system with at most 64K of RAM available for a user program, one would think of having an executable overlay mechanism as an indispensable tool to maximize the amount of memory available ...
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What was a DEC PDP-11/85 intended to be, and why might it be able to use DECsystem-10 software?

In this DEC PDP-11 Strategy Memo from Sept 1974, there is this curious question. HOW MUCH OF THE DEC SYSTEM 10 SOFTWARE CAN THE 11/85 USE, OR DOES THE 11/85 HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH? CONFLICTING ...
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What was the most popular operating system on the PDP-11 computers?

What was the most popular operating system on the PDP-11 computers? And is it known what percentage of PDP-11 computers used this operating system?
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Should C be regarded as an Intermediate Language? [closed]

Should C be regarded as an intermediate language on a virtual machine named PDP-11 Architecture (which have a plain memory space and stacks), like opcode to jvm, msil to dotnet, asm.js to v8, which ...
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Trying to understand some assembly syntax in the Unix v7 write system call

so here is the code: (which comes from here, I've also verified this source is in my unix v7 distribution). For reference, this is running on a PDP-11 simulated with the simh program (so please keep ...
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pdp11 grace stack, when does grace time end

some models (45 for example) have a stack grace area for use after a stack overflow Stack Limit Violations. Quote from handbook When instructions cause a stack address to exceed (go lower than) a ...
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How to implement a 'write' function in pdp-11 / MACRO-11 / ODT using simh?

So, I'm working on a project where I'm aiming to get the first winner of the IOCCC (obfuscated c code contest) dissected down to the last detail... The program is mullender.c which you can find by ...
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What’s the most advanced os I can run on a non memory management pdp11 (ie 11/20)

Building my own emulator. I only have the basic , no memory management, model going (11/20?). I started with caps11. What’s my best choice for a disk based os. EDIT: and of course if anybody has the ...
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Does anybody have the PDP-11 CAPS-11 source code?

CAPS-11 is the Casette Programming System for the PDP-11. The manual is available at Bitsavers, binaries can be found at SimH. The manual contains instructions how to assemble the system from source, ...
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Understanding PDP 11 ' JSR PC,(RR)' instruction [duplicate]

I am new (1 week to PDP 11, writing my own emulator for fun) using CAPS11 as my starting point. I am confused by this from the very first bit of bootup code 000110: 012703 000130 mov #130,r3 ; ...
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What was the DEC CR11 card reader 'compressed Hollerith code' for?

In this manual for the DEC CR11 card reader controller, the controller can deliver the card content to the PDP11 in either of two forms: Column binary: the 12 rows of hole/no-hole are delivered in ...
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Could the PDP-11 console be accessed "raw" by software?

My rough understanding of the lights-and-switches console that many PDP-11 models had is that they were not hardwired into the CPU itself or anything, but implemented as just another Unibus device. ...
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Was the MC6800 a PDP-11 or PDP-8?

According to Gordon Bell, the 6800 was based on the PDP-11. According to Chuck Peddle, it was a PDP-8. Can anyone with knowledge of the PDP's pass judgement?
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How MOVB, TSTB and all byte instructions works in odd address read in PDP11?

I'm writing a PDP11 emulator. When CPU read odd address on Unibus odd address exception is launched. But the code below INC increments PRTPTR by 1 which make TSTB @PRTPTR generate a exception when it ...
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What causes the monitor to reduce to four lines on BK 0010 Focal?

When working with the Focal cartridge inserted on my BK 0010, the area displayed on the monitor suddenly reduces to just four lines , instead of the usual 20 Each time this has happened when I've ...
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How to view register contents on the PDP-11 console?

I have a PiDP-11 kit, which emulates a PDP-11/70 console. I've been using it as a launch point to gradual learning about the original machines and so far have been able to read/write memory and launch ...
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Why was Logo created?

The Logo programming language was created by researchers at MIT's AI Lab. Its post-1980s use has been predominately in the educational field, but is this what the language was originally designed for? ...
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Was it really possible for a PDP-11 to address more than 32K words memory without an MMU?

In an answer by user RichF, it is claimed that the previous-address-space moves were able to access 'all of memory' without memory management being enabled. The instructions MFPI (move from previous ...
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Why was the DEC Q-Bus called the Q-bus?

The bus used for DEC's LSI-11 microcomputer implementation of the PDP-11 was originally and prosaically referred to as the LSI-11 bus, but thereafter it was universally referred to as the Q-bus. Does ...
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How did 2-chip CPUs work?

The 1970s saw a big transition from CPUs built from thousands of discrete components, to CPUs implemented on a single chip, with the occasional use of bit-slice components along the way. There were, ...
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Does the in-code argument passing conventions used on PDP-11's have a name?

Some subroutine calls on PDP-11 machines would be coded with the arguments appearing immediately after JSR or EMT instruction, something like this (apologies for not knowing the exact MACRO syntax): ...
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PDP-11 JMP and JSR - how was the target specified?

As I understand it, the PDP-11 has a 16-bit address space with a fully loaded system having 28k words (56k bytes) after reserving some of the address space for I/O, which means if instructions must be ...
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Were any PDP-11 systems with Corita Kent side-panels actually sold?

Somewhere around 1980, I heard about PDP-11 systems that had side-panels designed by Corita Kent (a nun and pop artist, who amongst other things designed a stamp for the US post office, and gas ...
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Why does AT&T syntax use * and $?

In a comment to an answer about AT&T assembly syntax, another-dave asked the following: DEC used #foo for an immediate operand in -11 assemblers; the Unix guys apparently preferred $foo, which ...
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May the PDP-11's stack grow in either direction?

According to this answer, the stack grows downward. It's in §4.4 of the cited document: As another example, the DEC PDP11 range has a hardware stack which grows with decreasing store addresses....
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What is the history of the PDP-11 MARK instruction?

The PDP-11 MARK instruction was intended to be used as part of the standard PDP-11 subroutine return convention. MARK facilitated the stack clean up procedures involved in subroutine exit. To use it, ...
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What was the clock speed and ips for the original PDP-11?

What was the clock speed of the first generation of the PDP-11 with the KA11 cpu? This sounds like something that should be easily googlable but so far I have found nothing. I'm also interested in ...
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Were there any LSI-11 like home computers outside of Russia?

In my childhood I had one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronika_BK Note, that the CPU of this is based on LSI-11. This is rather surprising because PDP-11 took a room (I was lucky ...
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Creating a PDP-11 bootable disk

I want to create my own boot disk (an image file to use with simh) from my own PDP-11 code but I don't know how the code needs to be written to the disk/file so that it boots. I can load my code using ...
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The baud rate of which serial card does the "stty" command returns in UNIX V7?

I am using a PDP-11 emulator with UNIX V7 installed on it. The stty command returns the baud rate: To which serial card does this returned baud rate belongs to, is it the terminal serial card, or ...
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Why were the /\ (min) and the \/ (max) operators abandoned in the C language?

In the UNIX V7 version of the C language (but not yet in the V6 version), there were the /\ (min) and the \/ (max) operators. In the source of the scanner part of the compiler, case BSLASH: if (...
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Could we change the baud rate for the two serial ports on a terminal and on a computer?

Say we have a terminal (for example: VT100) that is connected to a computer (for example: PDP-11), and UNIX V7 is installed on the computer. The terminal will have a serial port that is connected ...
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