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I remember back then, there were few people that used to drill an extra hole on them to double their capacity.

Surprisingly, it worked!

While the other way around is plausible I am quite unsure of the reliability of such transformation in the long term.

1440 KiB floppies were probably more expensive not only because they had an extra hole, rather, a different material was used like in CrO2 or Metal tapes.

Is this reasoning correct?

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    This did not work at all for 5¼ floppies. Formatting a 360K floppy as 1.2M failed almost immediately, strangely it also failed the other way around: low-density drives could not reliably use high-density floppies either.
    – Stavr00
    Commented Apr 23, 2019 at 13:35
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    Interestingly, it's probably the other way round today: While you can obtain 3 1/2" HD disks with relative ease even new, DD disks are much harder to find.
    – tofro
    Commented Aug 3, 2022 at 11:44

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Standard and double density disks used an iron oxide coating. High density floppies used a cobalt coating.

The benefit of the cobalt coating was that bits could be placed closer together, allowing for more bits per track.

Some confusion arose because the only difference between standard and double density disks is that SD uses FM coding, and DD uses MFM coding. MFM allows bits to be packed closer together without changing the magnetic properties of the disk, so it was possible to use disks designed for standard density without any problem.

Since HD uses a different coating to get higher bit density a DD disk may work but would not be considered reliable. In particular it may have issues with certain drives, or not be readable when used in a different drive to the one it was written on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_density

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This worked... for a while... but eventually the low density disks written with high density data can start to develop data errors and become corrupted and unreadable.

The way that magnetic media works is that it has a coating that can retain a magnetic field that has been imprinted on it, and it has a resistance to demagnetization / remagnetization, known as coercitvity.

Magnetic media needs to be able to resist casual demagnetization by the Earth's magnetic field, from other magnetic media placed near it, but most importantly from other data written directly onto the media.

On most disks there is usually up to a full track width of space between adjacent tracks, because in addition to writing an imprint of a magnetic field directly underneath the drive head, there will be an additional unfocused fringe of a magnetic field around the edges of the drive head. If the tracks are space too closely together, this fringing can partially overwrite the magnetic patterns of adjacent tracks.

For a high density disk, the media has a much higher coercivity. A low-density drive will not be able to write to these disks because its drive head does not produce a strong enough magnetic field.

For a low density disk written with a high density drive head, the signal intensity is stronger but also smaller, but with also a stronger unfocused fringe around the drive head. This unfocused fringe has minimal effect on a high density disk, but for a low density disk it can be strong enough to change the media.

If this is happening, the high density data is slowly corrupted as the disk is filled with data over time.

Also because the data is more closely packed together on the media, it is possible for adjacent high intensity magnetic patterns to erase each other in a sort of tug of war on low density media.

For a bit pattern of 11011 the center zero bit is being stressed by the two outer 1 bits on either side with an opposing field. Over time the magnetic field in the center may weaken and disappear, becoming unreadable as 11#11, or it may flip entirely to match the two outer fields as 11111.

Temperature also has an effect on media coercive stability, so if these specially written disks are kept in a cool storage location, they are more likely to be readable later than if they are kept in a very hot attic for years.

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  • Some tasks require the ability to write different parts of the disk in arbitrary order, but others just require writing a disk once with data that will never be modified. I wonder how higher track densities would have affected reliability in applications fitting the latter usage pattern? My Apple //c seems to be able to handle 3/4 track spacing at least in the short term, but I don't know if a disk written that way would be as reliable as a disk with normal track spacing that was written and overwritten in arbitrary fashion but has as yet lasted 40+ years.
    – supercat
    Commented Aug 1, 2022 at 22:15
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Stumbled into this thing while cleaning up my basement. A density doubling disk notcher. A 3½ floppy is placed face down, turning the handle acts like a vise to press down the hole punch.

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DISK WIZARD
Pat. pending
Made in Canada

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  • Simply amazing!
    – aybe
    Commented Apr 23, 2019 at 8:47
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    It was called the “Disk Wizard” because it required magic to work. 😐
    – Synetech
    Commented Jul 9, 2019 at 15:29
  • @Synetech They were probably granted the patent, too.
    – screwtop
    Commented Oct 24 at 4:57
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My memory is that the HD floppies were made to a higher spec, so you could get away with formatting a lower density to HD, but at an increased risk of errors over time. However, Wikipedia disagrees with me:

The holes on the right side of a ​3 1⁄2‑inch disk can be altered as to make some disk drives and operating systems treat the disk as one of higher or lower density, for bidirectional compatibility or economical reasons. Some computers, such as the PS/2 and Acorn Archimedes, ignored these holes altogether.

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    In PC stuff, the use of the hole for density selection is a mess. In AT-compatible systems, pin 2 of the floppy connector interface is a signal sent from the floppy controller to the drive. It will be low level if the BIOS set the floppy controller to DD operation, and high level if the BIOS set the floppy controller to HD operation. At the same time, 3.5" floppy drives also get a density indication from the medium. It highly depends on the drive which of the two indications is used for what. So-called "3-mode 3.5 inch floppy drives" even switch to 360RPM if the disk says HD and the PC says DD Commented Aug 6, 2022 at 18:55
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I remember being able to convert good quality DD floppies (Sony comes to mind) to HD floppies for MS-DOS and it worked very well and was cheap, but with low quality/brandless DD floppies you were in for a very bad surprise.

On the other hand I used the inverse trick to copy long-track/protected DD (original Amiga games) disks with a hardware copier onto HD disks with success.

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It sounds like you're referring to the write-protect notch. Single sided disks had a notch on one side, allowing you to write on one side. You could cover the notch with tape to make the disk read-only.

Because of this, you could grab a pair of scissors or a hole-punch and cut a notch out of the opposite side, flip the disk over, and use the other side. The disks, fortunately, were symmetrical. I can speak from experience, having done this to hundreds of old floppies.

There was possibly a bit of risk to the procedure. The manufacturers sold double-sided disks, for a higher price, and warned that cutting the notch yourself was unreliable. Perhaps due to the quality of the disk, and the possibility of leak through from the other side? Or, due to the fact that flipping the disk resulted in it spinning the opposite direction, and the inner lining could cause wear? Regardless, all the poor teenagers I knew did it to all their disks.

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    I'm not sure I believe this. Surely all discs were originally double-sided, and only later did it become normal to have drives that could write to both sides at the same time. I've never heard of 'one-sided' discs! Commented Apr 5, 2019 at 14:52
  • community.spiceworks.com/topic/… Commented Apr 5, 2019 at 15:24
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    No, this is not about the write-protect hole/notch, it's about the hole on 3.5 inch HD floppies that tells the drive they are HD and not DD. Commented Apr 5, 2019 at 20:01
  • A 5½″ disk (neither the rotating disc part nor its PVC case) isn’t up/down-symmetric. Ignore this posting in its entirety. Commented Mar 28, 2021 at 16:34

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